More Than Just a Gay Cowboy Flick.


Brokeback Mountain a fresh take on 'stale' Hollywood love stories: Ledger
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'Gay cowboy movie' shatters stereotypes.

Okay, you know what? Lord of the Rings is a movie about little guys with hairy feet saving the world. Harry Potter is a series of kids' books. Star Wars is a science fiction movie. All three are epic struggles of good vs. evil.

Just because you label a work of fiction doesn't mean that's ALL it is. Ostensibly, Buffy and Angel are vampire shows while Firefly's a western in space show, but they're both intriguing character dramas as well, and occasionally comedies. Is that going to stop us calling them vampire shows, or cowboy-in-space shows? Hell no. I'm damn proud of that aspect of them as well.

I understand the people involved in Brokeback Mountain not wanting it to be discriminated against on the basis of the whole gay cowboy thing before it comes out, but no matter what anyone says, no matter how deep the love between the boys, no matter how well crafted the drama, THEY ARE GAY COWBOYS. Therefore, it is a film about gay cowboys. A gay cowboy movie.

And I'm damn proud of that fact.

Summary of new Goblet of Fire trailer. They switched the school names at the beginning, but I swear more than half of this stuff was NOT in the books. I really don't like Newell. I MISS CUARON.

BASTARDS! Putting Chris out before Laura?! BASTARDS AUSTRALIA!!! SHAME!!!

Augh.





I took notes at the Joss Serenity screening (like my Peter Jackson notes) and I'll write them up later today. Right now I'm thoroughly dead, so I'm gonna go sit in front of the TV and veg out. Will have more news and such later as well.

Is it gay cowboy month yet?
Green Queen

From: [identity profile] pippins-penny.livejournal.com


"I think that we have just a chemistry as friends and I think that we dove into the love scenes - and then jumped out as fast as we could."


That was a great line!

From: [identity profile] candidlily.livejournal.com


THANK YOU OH MY GOD. I totally agree about the gay cowboy label. I have read the overplayed discussions on whether it is gay or slash or whatever and who really cares what you call it? Anyway. Thanks for speaking my thoughts! XD

Is it gay cowboy month yet?

From: [identity profile] skwyshi.livejournal.com



Oh oh! Serenity!! *bounces*

I saw the trailer for the first time today and it sent me into hyper-excited-fandom mode.
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From: [identity profile] arabella-hope.livejournal.com


Listen....I forgot to do this when I woke up today. (Is it bad I thought of you?) Anyways, I had a dream about the movie...like, I'm in this parking garage and for some reason along comes Heath Ledger (but not in the getup or anything...just Heath) saying he lost someone. Well, I can't help him, and he wanders off...and then along comes Jake! I talk to him for awhile and he spots H. and runs over to him and they kiss.

Don't pinch me. Please don't XD

I can't believe I dreamt this. Not that I'm complaining.

From: [identity profile] makealimb.livejournal.com


aggggghhhh *shakes fist* i knooowww! how is she possibly there is beyond me. ugh.

heh, i totally get what you mean about stereotypes, and theyre absolutely spot on. thank god for gaw cowboys. :D

oohhhh yes, cant wait for those screening notes. did you see him on sunrise thismorning?? :D

From: [identity profile] green-queen.livejournal.com


No, I was on a bus on the way home, unfortunately. Will watch him on Rove tonight though.

He was lovely.

From: (Anonymous)


He's such a cool guy. My friend is meeting him tonight at an advanced screening. Am looking forward to Rove. :)

From: [identity profile] green-queen.livejournal.com


I just think people are getting worked up over nothing, like there's something wrong with it being about gay cowboys. Which is silly.

From: [identity profile] green-queen.livejournal.com


The movie is seriously so amazingly good. Best movie I've seen all year. Trademark Joss: funny, sad, action-packed, shocking, clever.

From: [identity profile] green-queen.livejournal.com


I want dreams like that! Mine are always stupid dreams about being fish or something.

From: [identity profile] skwyshi.livejournal.com



Oh wow - You've seen it!? *is jealous*

If you're going to post reviews, could you post one with, and without spoilers?
I want to go in pretty much blind - movies often turn out better when I dont read anything spoilerish.

*is still jealous*

From: [identity profile] truffle-shuffle.livejournal.com


I know you're a HP purist, and in a lot of cases (mostly fanfic related) I am too. But when it comes to the movies, I give them room and artistic license to fiddle with things. Much as I'd like to see a four hour GOF with every single little detail perfect, I am perfectly happy with them taking a little lee-way (how the hell is that supposed to be spelled? lol) with the content. From the description of that trailer, it doesn't sound like Newell fucked anything up; he just tweaked it a bit. I love Alfonso Curon for getting the feeling of POA, and the series on a whole, better than Chris Columbus did. In my opionion, the feeling of it is almost more important than getting every single detail correct and unchanged. I mean, there were quite a few tweaks done to POA, and it's a better movie for them. And personally, I think the first two movies are greatly missing something that I know Alfonso got, and hopefully Mike Newell did as well. I'm so excited to see this movie, and I'm sure it will be fantastic despite, or even because of, the changes.

That being said, I still think Hermione's dress being pink is just wrong. They must really love Emma in that color, because she's wearing it a lot.

From: [identity profile] green-queen.livejournal.com


Twice now! Isn't that nifty?

Well, I'm making it so all the spoilers in my Joss Q&A writeup will be invisible unless you highlight them. As far as reviews go? VERY EXCITING and enormously cool movie. That's your review ;)

From: [identity profile] green-queen.livejournal.com


It's not so much...I don't mind them leaving things out. What I mind is when they actively change stuff that's perfectly good in the first place. I dunno, this movie seems like a return to the first two. I don't like the idea of a funeral for Cedric, or the lack of Sirius.

I agree about the feeling of it being better than getting it right, which is why I'm concerned about comments about making the movie a thriller. Now I'm already cranky with Newell which is making me overly critical.

I think Hermione is general is getting close to just wrong. Her character's wandering dangerously far from the Hermione in the books. *worries*

At least we have Cedric.

From: [identity profile] hobbitofkobol.livejournal.com


well I wasn't satisfied at all with the PoA movie so... I mean, I had to explain the movie to three of my friends who hadn't read the books, they didn't explain anything at all about the Marauders and all... and I hate the way the children are dressed as Muggles... but if I concentrate on just the movie, not the fact that it's an adaptation of my favorite HP book, then it was the best out of the three.

And for the trailer of GoF...
Durmstrang ship flies in
Beauxbatons rises from the water

Maybe they typed it wrong... because in past trailer I saw pretty horses fly and I'm sure they're from Beauxbatons, they look so... Beauxbatons... lol
but if it's true then argh...


From: [identity profile] truffle-shuffle.livejournal.com


I've talked about the lack of Sirius before...I think that comes down to time and money most likely, and he's really only in three scenes or so in the book anyway - he's much more talked about and thought about, isn't he? I'd be more upset if it were OotP and he were barely in it. I didn't know about the Cedric Funeral thing, but I guess that's probably for the moviegoers who haven't read the books, and probably won't read the books. The general population of mindless moviegoers probably wouldn't understand there not being some sort of closure, i.e. a funeral, for a character they'ere obviously attached to. In relation to the book, and especially to the end of The Half-Blood Prince, a funeral for Cedric doesn't make as much sense as Dumbledore's moving speech at the final feast, but we're not the mindless mainstream audience, so we know that. I think the problem with turning a book like this, and really, a series like Harry Potter into movies is that the filmmakers have to make those decisions that won't make everyone happy. Living where I do and talking to the people I've talked to and reading what I've read about the movie industry, sadly a lot of times something in a movie has to suffer because the studio people are only thinking about the end result (*cough*money*cough*) and they don't get that more people that see a movie like The Goblet of Fire will have read the book and loved the book and notice things like a funeral for a character that wasn't given a funeral in the book than people who haven't read it and won't get why that's not right. I have to give Newell the benefit of the doubt on some things and hope that some of his changes were made because of pressure put on him to scale down this massive book into a two and a half hour movie by Warner Brothers.

As for the Hermione thing...well...I don't know. I'm ok with her being Super!Hermione, because she pretty much has been from the start in the films. What I'm not ok with is the overly dumbing down of Ron that has been a constant. He's not such a dimwit scaredy-cat in the books as he is in the films. But Rupert does those faces so well, I'm assuming that's why they keep doing it to the character.

What's my point? I'm rambling.

From: [identity profile] green-queen.livejournal.com


I have absolutely no delusions that my irritation at the lack of Sirius is anything but bias on my part. It's just because I love Sirius and I think underusing Gary Oldman is a crime.

I think that in Philosopher's Stone we had very close to canon Hermione - the hair, the clothes, the behaviour - but she's sort of morphed into an Emma-Hermione hybrid over the years.

I agree 100% with the dumbing down of Ron. He's a brave, loyal and funny character, not comic relief. I think he got a bit more recognition in PoA but they still gave his best line to Hermione.

I just have a lingering bad feeling about this movie I can't shake even though I want to.

Rambling's good! I wish I had more to say but I'm really very tired.

From: [identity profile] truffle-shuffle.livejournal.com


There was that devil's snare moment in Philosopher's Stone though that wasn't in the book...or is it the other way around? I can't remember. It doesn't support my point, so I should just move on.

I agree with the lack of use of a talent like Gary Oldman, but I get why it had to happen. It'd be worse if he weren't in it at all.

And really, I don't want to judge the movie before I see it. I love what I've seen (Harry flying out of the lake like a fish notwithstanding. WTF is that about?!), and I don't want to get upset before I need to. Because maybe I won't get upset at all.

Do you have any idea what movie the trailer is supposed to be attached to this weekend? HPANA said it was supposed to be in theaters this weekend, and I want to know so I can either see whatever movie it's played before, or at least sneak in to see it when I go see something...I know something's coming out this weekend that I want to see, I just can't think of what it is at the moment. Everything Is Illuminated? That comes out this week, doesn't it?

From: [identity profile] green-queen.livejournal.com


They changed the Devil's Snare thing in the movie to incorporate her "cool use of logic" because Columbus stupidly took out the potion challenge in the rooms because, I assume, it would hold up the action. So Hermione had to be logically differently. She was still much more canon-like than in the later films.

Yeah, it would. I'm still annoyed. Where is he at the end? Oh, my godson's just been through something terrible and harrowing, I'll just sit quietly in a cave eating rats?

Yeah, the whole lake thing was iffy to me too. The mermaids look cool.

Corpse Bride?

From: [identity profile] green-queen.livejournal.com


See, I like that rather than changing things in the movie, Cuaron just left stuff out. Also, it was such a beautiful movie and Cuaron's such an incredible director, and he used Gary Oldman wisely. And did I meantion SUCH a beautiful film?

They typed it wrong, trust me.

From: [identity profile] truffle-shuffle.livejournal.com


Oh, does Corpse Bride come out this week? I definitely want to see that. But I want to see Everything is Illuminated too, which is on limited release this weekend (which generally means NYC and LA). Maybe I'll do a double feature. :)

From: [identity profile] flamingo-killer.livejournal.com


CONGRATS ON THE LOST AWARDS!

Good rant, too. *approves*
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