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[green_queen]

I find it humorous that the people out there that consider themselves open minded and "tolerant", feel the need to immediately go on the offensive against those of us that do not approve of homosexuality. If you're going to be tolerant then be tolerant to beliefs.
I'm not saying the acting was bad because hey both of these are great actors, but I find the entire subject to be stomach turning and less about expanding tolerance and more about shock value. Of course I can't say I'm disappointed in Hollywood because these are the people that ridiculed Passion of the Christ and applaud midden such as this.

from here.

It doesn't work like that, because if we are tolerant of the beliefs of those who are against homosexuality, we are encouraging that intolerance. From what I hear there's all of one, maybe two sex scenes. That's NOT going for shock value. This is the kind of person that makes me want to weep for humanity, because they think they're being logical and intelligent when they're being narrow-minded and simple.

Green Queen

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[mosinging1986.livejournal.com]

What I've seen (on LJ especially) personally is that it's those who support homosexuality who call those of us who do not 'intolerant'.

There seems to be no room for those of us who do not support this lifestyle, but who at the same time don't hate the people and would *never* condone violence, name calling and that sort of thing. But unless you wholeheartedly are for it, you're dismissed with the label of 'closed minded' and 'intolerant'.

I'm just saying I wish it wasn't so, 'you're on one side, I'm on the other' and that's it - no talking between the two sides.

I realize that this issue is complicated and sometimes friendships end over it. But what I've seen is people on both sides not even making an effort.

[tuatha-de.livejournal.com]

As someone who IS wholeheartedly for homosexuality, I just want to say that it's cool that even though you don't support the lifestyle you're not running around waving "gays go to hell" banners. Snaps for not doing that. Homosexuality is something I feel strongly about, but I agree that both sides seem to be on the defensive a lot, and I know I'm guilty of it sometimes. So I just thought I'd say cool, feel what you want, believe what you want, as long as nobody's getting hurt.

[tuatha-de.livejournal.com]

That said, the person who wrote that review isn't really helping us all meet in the middle.

[mosinging1986.livejournal.com]

Oh, I can't stand seeing that kind of thing. If that's the attitude 'our side' shows forth, no wonder there's defensiveness and antagonism.

Thanks for your comment.

[green-queen.livejournal.com]

But if we're just sitting here saying 'believe what you want' then we're not going to change anybody's minds about it, are we? If everybody was like this commenter, just disagreeing with homosexuality privately, we're still going to get discrimination against homosexuals. Isn't the goal to get rid of that discrimination?

[tuatha-de.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure I want to change anyone's mind. I feel discrimination is acting on a bias rather than just having one. I'm biased against people who believe in the death sentence, but I'm not going to discriminate against them and treat them badly just because that's what they believe. The TB up there has a bias, but doesn't actually seem to be discriminating. The guy who wrote the review of BBM, on the other hand, is letting his bias get in the way of actually reviewing the film, and therefore he's fair game.
That's my line in the sand, I get not everyone feels the same way.
My, aren't I ranty on this issue?

[green-queen.livejournal.com]

I just don't see why there *are* sides. For me it's exactly the same as racism, sexism and any other form of discrimination. Whether you're attracted to men or women is as easy to control as whether you're born with darker skin, or which gender you are. It's not a lifestyle, a lifestyle is a conscious choice, So sure, you have the right to believe what you like, but it doesn't mean you're right and it certainly doesn't mean I'm ever going to agree with you.

[jenish.livejournal.com]

If being tolerant of someone else's belief means that you respect their right to that, then I am tolerant of homophobic beliefs. They have the right to their own opinion, they don't have to agree with ... okay, I can't call who I find attractive a "lifestyle", it affects nothing except who I find attractive, which is nobody's business but mine and my girlfriend's. But anyway, they don't have to like it, that's their prerogative.

That doesn't stop me from automatically being dismayed when I see/hear them, and cutting out of my life 'friends' who hold them (this usually comes out soon after meeting me, so I've never grown to care about a friend and then found out they held anti-gay beliefs/feelings/opinions. I'm pretty open about my sexuality, and if someone else isn't comfortable with it, they can leave, doesn't matter how long I've known them. Thanks, it was great and all, but it makes me uncomfortable to be around people who think who I fancy even matters, let alone is A Bad Thing). Life's too short.

[foxxcub.livejournal.com]

Next thing you know we'll need to be tolerant of racists and bigots.

*rolls eyes*

[scary-lullabies.livejournal.com]

I realize this comment is terribly late, but I just have to say, it's nice when ppl destroy their credibility right up front. Passion of the Christ was on all fours, head down, ass up, begging to be ridiculed. And anyone who can't take a joke about something they like probably leads a miserable life devoid of slash, chocolate, root beer, pirates, avocados, and everything else worth enjoying.