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Two things about Supernatural:
1. This spoiler.
2. Apparently, it's a cult show because there's fanfic.
Look, usually I'm all for people writing whatever the hell they want in fanfiction. It's their outlet, so they can write whatever twisted, crazy stuff it is that lets them escape for a while. But quite frankly, I am sick of the entire fandom being painted as crazy Wincest-loving Jensen-groping hysterical women, and I think the problem is that a disturbingly large proportion of this fandom - not all of us, but more than perhaps in most fandoms - is made up of crazy Wincest-loving Jensen-groping hysterical women. It's embarrassing. Writing Wincest doesn't make you one of those people, I know, but I'm starting to really resent those fans. I'm also sick of the writers referencing us. I've never found it very funny, and maybe that means I don't have a sense of humour about myself or something, but I think it's more just that it's a really nasty portrayal of us. Somebody mentioned 'Galaxy Quest' in the spoiler post, and the difference between this and 'Galaxy Quest' is that the movie likes fans. The fans in the movie are a little over-the-top, but they're also sweet and entertaining, and you can tell that the people who made the movie are fans themselves. The people who are writing us into Supernatural are not fans. There's no balance there.
As for the writer of the second one: you are not the first person to discover Wincest. Please stop acting like a tool. Also, a cult show is a show with a small but loyal and devoted audience, not a show that has fanfic written about it. By that measure, every piece of fiction in the history of existence could be considered cult.
Green Queen
1. This spoiler.
2. Apparently, it's a cult show because there's fanfic.
Look, usually I'm all for people writing whatever the hell they want in fanfiction. It's their outlet, so they can write whatever twisted, crazy stuff it is that lets them escape for a while. But quite frankly, I am sick of the entire fandom being painted as crazy Wincest-loving Jensen-groping hysterical women, and I think the problem is that a disturbingly large proportion of this fandom - not all of us, but more than perhaps in most fandoms - is made up of crazy Wincest-loving Jensen-groping hysterical women. It's embarrassing. Writing Wincest doesn't make you one of those people, I know, but I'm starting to really resent those fans. I'm also sick of the writers referencing us. I've never found it very funny, and maybe that means I don't have a sense of humour about myself or something, but I think it's more just that it's a really nasty portrayal of us. Somebody mentioned 'Galaxy Quest' in the spoiler post, and the difference between this and 'Galaxy Quest' is that the movie likes fans. The fans in the movie are a little over-the-top, but they're also sweet and entertaining, and you can tell that the people who made the movie are fans themselves. The people who are writing us into Supernatural are not fans. There's no balance there.
As for the writer of the second one: you are not the first person to discover Wincest. Please stop acting like a tool. Also, a cult show is a show with a small but loyal and devoted audience, not a show that has fanfic written about it. By that measure, every piece of fiction in the history of existence could be considered cult.
Green Queen
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So basically, PREACH IT, SISTAH. *fist pump*
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Having a small loyal fanbase is not enough... the fans have to want to interact with the show, and have a sense over ownership over it... (acquired by things like writing fanfic).
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*goes back to his corner*
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(I would post my introduction to my dissertation here, but it's way, way too long... )
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It's sad.
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what I meant to say is that the "crazy" fandom is one of the 1st things that come to your mind when you think of the show as an outsider (well outsiders who are in fandom in general, not the general audience)
it is unfair indeed
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It's not even that good. Except when it is, and then it's amazing.
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As I've said, I don't care what people write. It's up to them. Where else can you express yourself but the internet, where it's anonymous and free? I just wish people would stop assuming all of us like it, because clearly we don't.
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I do agree with what you're saying ^.^
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But on the other hand, I can still laugh about the fan jokes on the show even though they practically support people's opinion about the SPN fans.
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Me neither. And this new spoiler just makes me go UUUUGH because...what do we need this for? I mean, none of this is gonna be funny, it's just gonna be embarrassing. They could really use the time in the show better and for much more important stuff.
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here's my rant.
There's not enough Sam.
/teh end
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To be fair, I still think that the reveal on 'The Monster at the End of the Book' that Chuck is a prophet was utterly brilliant. I would've liked it a lot more if they hadn't referenced Wincest, though. Ever. In any circumstance. And then making it a plot point?
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But you're right. Even if they do acknowledge that not all fans are crazy Wincest-writing girls, they're certainly not representing that in their show. I just wonder if they know that they're essentially insulting a large portion of their fanbase by lumping everyone into that one category.
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I don't get why people find it funny. I really don't.
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Why would you insult Misha Collins?! I would just...feed him grapes and fan him with a feather. LOL
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Yeah, face-licking and literal tackling...I feel bad for Jensen. Although when they came to HMMUIMC, all three of them seemed to relax obviously by the second day - Jensen most of all. It's like on the first day they were watching everything they said, but the second day they let loose a little more. I guess we didn't scare them as much ;)
It's his fault! He insulted us first. Well, not every time. And one time I poked fun at Castiel rather than Misha...